And: I could be a Penangite and still be told that the view that DAP is associated with the Chinese is an erroneous view. What is your point?

That’s probably because a lot of oil companies are national-owned.

“Just in the same way that DAP is associated with the Chinese - which I’m told is erroneous”

Then, obviously, you are not a Penangite.

- MENJ

You know, I get the feeling that one of these days, ALL of us need to meet up soon to pool our collective efforts (if only to give the ISA fellas some targets to keep a watch on..) heh heh.. :)

I will come and visit you more often. I like what I c here :)

I’ve lowered my expectations subconsciously, I think: yes I’d like to see the Opposition gain some ground - for the right reasons and all - but at the end of the day, I’m tired enough to just ask for an accountable government, no matter who’s in power. Politicians can go squabble with each other over which piece of political landscape they’d like. Hopefully something positive will come out of all of this.

@freelunch2020: maybe that’s how that rumour started; I’ve been in KT six weeks, now, since Boxing Day, and I’ve been speaking to the locals. No news of DAP or PKR at all. Who knows? Maybe I’m not asking the right people LOL. Maybe the lack of opposition presence - except, of course, PAS - has led people to conclude that there was a blanket ban on opposition parties participating with the flood relief efforts? Who knows.

And yeah, just why do partisans expect other people to be partisans. I don’t want to generalize this trait in all partisans, of course; desi, for example, doesn’t view everyone as partisan. It’s just that sometimes I feel partisans view everyone else as “The Opposition” ™. It’s just like that world-view in which either you’re for or against the Opposition. It’s a false dichotomy, and it’s a false dichotomy that gets stuck onto you because of your views.

I dunno. hopefully there are more partisans like desi around :)

@menj: Well, if you don’t find anything wrong with partisan-linked NGOs, then good for you, I suppose. It’s just a bit weird, don’t you think? Oil companies, for example, are non-partisan (surely!) but their presence in the middle east, raping that region of its oil wealth, certainly raises hackles and images of western imperialism, particularly american imperialism.

Just in the same way that DAP is associated with the Chinese - which I’m told is erroneous - I wonder how partisan-linked NGOs can escape the stigmas of their associations..

as to where were DAP + PKR….i am still asking that question….

“hold on to embers till they become ash, etc” ~~~ quite farnee….anwar actually said something almost exactly like this in the Tribute to Reformasi Heroes night. To quote him: “Kita mesti biar ombornya (dunno spelling) untuk terus membara…”

anyway, re whether partisans normally view others as themselves i think it’s common to project one’s own psychological make-up, traits, pref, etc onto others. in my limited experience, partisans expect me to be partisans. and it’s hard to explain my non-partisan stand sometimes. i have to keep reiterating that although i support some of the stands that particular parties take, i may not necessarily support the whole party…….

happeee sunday :D

Nothing odd about it. Unit Amal is a separate entity from PAS the same way Aman Malaysia is a separate entity from UMNO. They are both still NGOs, though of course we know who their primary backers are.

- MENJ

It’s like hearing that rumour about fishermen catching a fish with a misai and 2 horns, as reason for the flood. You believe?